Noah Podolefsky
Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:29:54 -0700
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Appears to be 21.45 Ah. The full spec sheet can be found here: http://www.shop.emcbattery.com/media/WKA12-33C.pdf Unfortunately, this sheet shows that the full height is actually 7.02" with the connectors...so may not work after all. -Noah On 11/18/2010 7:29 AM, [email removed...
Kevin Kayden
Wed, 17 Nov 2010 22:20:53 -0500
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First, congratulations on the S10EV. It will be a challenge to get it working. I have been stuck on the battery dilemma for awhile now. I need to know if the truck works before I buy the batteries, but I can't figure out if the truck works without buying the batteries. So it i...
Noah Podolefsky
Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:32:56 -0700
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Thanks for the advice Kevin. I noticed those are designed as UPS batteries, so wondering how well they hold up in an EV? I actually found some batteries made by Werker that are designed for mobile applications...very similar to B&B batteries that are made for EV's. They are 12...
Gil Dawson
Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:04:43 -0800
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Hi, Noah-- Welcome to the learning center. On Nov 15, 2010, at 7:35 PM, Noah Podolefsky wrote: > - Does anyone know if the DC-DC for power steering/AC is built into the controller, or a separate unit? And, what voltage / current output does it put out? The PSM (Power Steering...
Isaac Podolefsky
Tue, 16 Nov 2010 08:45:31 -0600
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Hi Guys, If you had read my posts last week, Noah is my brother so perhaps you can draw the connection between his questions and mine since it's the same truck. There is one thing that I was mistaken about regarding the truck. They thought the truck had 1,000, but it turns out...
McMullin, Kevin
Tue, 16 Nov 2010 08:48:59 -0500
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Hi Noah, Welcome to the group. I have a Lead Acid 97 S10E. If you haven't done so already, go to the archives and read up on what others have done. I used Deka Unigy 12AVR-75 batteries. Are they a good choice? Time will tell I guess. I did have 3 bad batteries. I replaced them...
Noah Podolefsky
Mon, 15 Nov 2010 20:35:17 -0700
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Hi all, My brother and I just picked up a '97 EV S10. The story is, it was owned by a company that was testing different batteries in the truck. It has 15k miles on it. We took it for $2000. Here's the deal: It has no batteries. They replaced the original charger with a progra...
McMullin, Kevin
Thu, 11 Nov 2010 11:23:00 -0500
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Richard, I would not want to guess at which wire would interrupt the charge. I only cut the paddle present, (Dark Green), wire in my harness to test it. There is a ground, (Black), and a power, (Red or Orange), in that plug. The power wire may do it. I don't have the books her...
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Wed, 10 Nov 2010 19:06:51 EST
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There are S-10 owners all over the United States. If there is only 60 or so S-10 EV trucks out there then some states must have none. The most reasonable priced traction pack at this time is still the used Ovonic NiMH modules. The LifePo4 cells start at 10 to 12 thousand and g...
Isaac Podolefsky
Wed, 10 Nov 2010 08:33:35 -0600
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I like the idea on the tilt bed. What kind of range do you get with that battery selection? I've also noticed some guys talking about a tech tool. What's that? I have a OBD-II code reader, but i assumed that it's not going to understand anything from an EV. haha... On Wed, Nov...
McMullin, Kevin
Wed, 10 Nov 2010 09:21:12 -0500
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Hi Isaac, With a lot of work, I put Deka Unigy 12AVR-75 batteries in my truck. The cost was around $4600.00. They are all in the box, after I modified it. I cut the top of the box and raised it about 3" to accommodate the taller batteries. I also added a tilt bed and can now a...
Isaac Podolefsky
Wed, 10 Nov 2010 07:47:32 -0600
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Hi Don, Thanks for the tips and suggestions. Since the truck doesn't have any batteries at all, I will put some very careful consideration into what route we choose to go. As much as I would love to look into some of the more powerful and efficient batteries, there is a bit of...
Lloyd Campbell
Tue, 9 Nov 2010 15:50:07 -0600
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Hello Group, With reluctance, I have finally brought myself to advertise my truck for sale. It is a '97 lead acid truck. Eric Luebben from Irvine CA was the originator of this truck. Eric replaced all battery modules with Panasonic modules used in the Tahoe Hybrid in early '08...
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Tue, 9 Nov 2010 14:16:51 EST
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Hello Isaac Welcome to the S-10 list. I changed the subject line to reflect the content of the post. A thousand miles that is extremely low miles. Usually a truck will have at least 4 or 5 thousand miles before no longer functioning. I have found with low mile dead EVs there w...
Isaac Podolefsky
Tue, 9 Nov 2010 08:57:25 -0600
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It needs batteries (as it currently has none) and I think the power supply for the AC unit and Power Steering need repair/replacing. Other than that it should be in excellent condition since it only has 1,000 original miles. I'm not as technical with electronics as my brother...
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Fri, 24 Sep 2010 12:41:41 EDT
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It would be my post below. The SOC will adjust for low modules but you should not have that problem with a good pack of lithium. As long as the modules are holding up and staying in balance all the BMS will track amps in and out. Ideal would be modules that can balance themsel...
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Fri, 24 Sep 2010 02:58:14 EDT
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Hello Naiche Yes and no. To do it correctly would take reprogramming the truck for a different chemistry. The only one that could do that would be GM. The truck will track amps in and out so that will give a SOC you can use. If the truck SOC works by only counting amps it will...
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Thu, 23 Sep 2010 03:27:04 EDT
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Hello Steve Yes hard to believe you could get 300,000 cycles considering the added heat at top of charge. You would think that alone would reduce a lot of cycle life. You would have to factor in calendar life as well. At some point age is going take its toll. However if you ke...
Stephen Weitz
Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:19:08 -0700
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Don, I took the graph you referenced and multiplied the cycle number by the mileage of a full cycle. I used 70 miles when new. I didn't factor the loss over time so the real numbers would be less than calculated. but here are the numbers: 100% DOD = 70 miles x 700 cycles = 49,...
Richard Falk
Mon, 13 Sep 2010 06:00:12 -0700 (PDT)
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I have a 97 s-10 lead acid truck. I was succesful in installing 26 Northstar 60ah AGM batteries in the original box. The inside of the box had to be modified.?And battery hold down's redesigned. Wiring modified. In the end it was a nice fit. Everything functions as original. I...
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Mon, 13 Sep 2010 02:15:44 EDT
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Hello Richard I load up the truck once in a while. If I am loading heavy items I try and put them near the cab so the truck will not sag in the rear as much. I try and make sure I have close to a full charge as possible if I have to go up any hills. I also back off or pull ove...
Stephen Weitz
Sun, 12 Sep 2010 18:34:55 -0700
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Yes, I have hauled a full heaping bed of wood chips and had results similar to yours. My range was normal and the truck performed well. I did not drive any hills. That might be a problem with a full load. The truck seems to be well designed for use. Mine is a NiMH battery truc...
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Sun, 12 Sep 2010 20:57:56 -0400
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Hi everybody, I don't post to this list very often - but I read all of the posts. Thought I would tell you about a different kind of driving experience I had last week. Most of the talk on this list is about getting more range, and some of that has focused on making the truck...
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Sat, 11 Sep 2010 19:29:21 EDT
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Hello Naiche It appears you might have already made up your mind. I am still going to respond about your concerns because some of your beliefs are misconceptions. First off there are some very intelligent and helpful people on this list. There is also always going to be some c...
Naiche Lujan
Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:55:03 -0700
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Hey Guys, Thanks for your responses. I have determined that for a couple of reasons this is probably not the car for me. The current expected range coupled with the lack of availability of new cells and charging makes it a particularly nerve racking idea. As I stated, my round...
paul doe
Mon, 6 Sep 2010 09:24:21 -0700 (PDT)
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Naiche, ? ??? What Don said... I was going to respond and saw Don had already done the job.? Definitely get the scan tool ($1400 for a used tool is excellent and a good price for a new one is over $3000).? Someone new to EV's will only get 20-30 miles range.? It takes practive...
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Sat, 4 Sep 2010 19:21:18 EDT
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I found this interesting thought some of you would as well. This is fairly current information as Ovonic has changed their web site recently and this is new. _http://www.energyconversiondevices.com/pdf/NiOH2_cycle_life.pdf_ (http://www.energyconversiondevices.com/pdf/NiOH2_cyc...
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Sat, 4 Sep 2010 17:42:15 EDT
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Hello Naiche First off buying an EV is not much different then buying any other vehicle except for the lack of needing gas. As long as the S-10 meets your usual weekly range requirements your going to love it. I find a small pickup is a perfect around town EV. It can transport...
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Sat, 4 Sep 2010 14:26:06 EDT
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Hello Ryan I have a few hundred new temp sensors and a small supply of NiMH modules. As well as most every other part on the S-10. Except for the fan buffer which Jeff is making. So there is no problem getting parts. Don Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ryan Dela <[email...
Naiche Lujan
Fri, 3 Sep 2010 09:10:51 -0700
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Hello S10 community, I just signed up because I need some advice. There is someone selling their S10 EV and I'm exploring the possibility of being an S10 owner. I'm curious to know what is it like? Here is the listing text: ---------------------- I am selling my 1997 S-10EV. I...