Paul Peavyhouse
Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:32:39 -0800
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My math was off, but it still seems inferior to the NiMH: - NiMH: (12V * 85AH) / 17.5kg = 60 Wh/kg - SCiB: (24V * 4.2AH) / 2kg = 50.4 Wh/kg My general point was that I like the form factor and it would be nice to have new batteries in the truck (I assume the BCM would need ext...
Paul Peavyhouse
Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:19:55 -0800
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Through some conversations w/ other s10ev readers, I think my math must be off, but this doesn't sound right: - NiMH: 85AH / 17.5kg = 4.86 AH/kg - SCiB: 4.2AH / 2kg = 2.1 AH/kg Do these LI batteries actually have a *worse* Specific Energy than the NiMH? Pv On Dec 12, 2007 1:40...
Paul Peavyhouse
Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:03:24 -0800
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The problem w/ getting an incomplete S10EV is that the S10EV was built w/ a lot of proprietary components (hardware and software) that all depend on each other. If any one component is missing the the whole system gets confused (and thus will probably not work). True, you can...
Paul Peavyhouse
Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:40:18 -0800
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I'm lovin the form factor of these cells!: http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/11/toshiba-launching-scib-batteries-in-march-5-min-charge-10-year/ Hmmm, kinda reminds me of the NiMH! :) http://www.evbones.com/battery.html The below link is a mock of me trying to fit these into the...
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Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:13:09 +0000
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Hi Johnny, Welcome to the S-10 group. Some folks have manuals out there - they are also available for sale (I think) but rather expensive. Hopefully another member will respond with more info on that. Visit www.evbones.com for additional info on these trucks. This is the websi...
Johnny Chattin
Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:05:30 -0500
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?I am new to this, so do I reply to [email removed]. So yes I believe I bought a queen. From what I can tell the components are intact just unplug in the motor bay. The battery box is missing, I see as no big deal as I can fabricate that. The batteries, well I found an article...
Johnny Chattin
Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:42:18 -0500
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I wonder if anyone has a copy of the service manuals for the oem 1997 s10 ev. Also why doesn't anyone post any pics of the oem s10 ev on the net, there are very limited pics. I just purchased an oem s10 ev, yes it was fleet vehicle from an Air Force base. The battery box is go...
Adams, Lynn
Tue, 11 Dec 2007 09:48:21 -0700
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Niel, You can trick the sensor into a more reasonable temperature turn on, but you need to be aware of some of the S10 features. In short you can put a little additional resistance in the thermal sensor line (it is a thermistor that has higher resistance as it gets colder) by...
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Mon, 10 Dec 2007 00:47:00 EST
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Hello Tony That was me. I think I had traffic backed up to Salem. Were you driving the truck with four headlamps and waving a fist? I was using a Tech2 and trying to go a lot miles without charging. I had to drive conservative the whole trip if I was going to make it. With no...
Jeff Thomas
Wed, 5 Dec 2007 06:59:46 -0700
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Possibly Don or Pat. Maybe they'll chime in. There's somewhere close to ten S-10EV's in Portland. All thanks to Don's efforts to reintroduce them. Jeff On Dec 4, 2007, at 10:10 PM, tony barker wrote: > > As a former Vacavillian and now a WA resident, I was blown away at > an S...
tony barker
Wed, 5 Dec 2007 05:10:17 +0000
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As a former Vacavillian and now a WA resident, I was blown away at an S10E sighting on I5 last Friday afternoon. NB I5 at the Oregon/WA border. Tony Barker From: [email removed]: S10-EV Digest, Vol 51, Issue 19To: [email removed]: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:02:21 -0500Send S10-EV mai...
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Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:05:35 EST
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Frank Check with Jeff Thomas at [email removed] (mailto:[email removed]) for a charging station I believe your Tech2 is reading the stored DTC you need to clear them. Don Blazer OK, got some time to get back on the S-10... Got the Tech 2 and have found the following: Trouble c...
Frank Fenton
Sat, 24 Nov 2007 17:05:06 -0600
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OK, got some time to get back on the S-10... Got the Tech 2 and have found the following: Trouble codes of Low Battery and Very Low Battery plus Comm Failure Batteries are at 320 to 330 volts, so have plenty of charge and the Tech 2 reads that voltage. When I look at the Batte...
Gil Dawson
Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:08:38 -0800
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Joshua-- It looks reasonable, modulo the safety concerns. However, the EV-1 Dash program replaces the Scan Tool with a Palm Pilot to achieve similar results. Had you heard about this? --Gil At 6:40 P -0500 11/14/07, Joshua Tomel wrote: >Surfing the web I came upon this website...
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Wed, 7 Nov 2007 04:11:34 EST
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Hello Richard Great to hear your doing well with the truck. You noticed in time to be a bit more conservative and increased you range. It's too bad the heat pump uses so much power I usually drive around with it off. Gloves really help when holding on to a freezing steering wh...
Frank Fenton
Tue, 6 Nov 2007 10:01:22 -0600
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Thanks for the inputs so far. To clarify a bit... This is a totally new battery box that is made to use the same mounting method as the original. The rear box uses existing holes in the frame so no new holes were drilled in the frame. All is pristine, including the old battery...
Niel Nielsen
Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:15:21 -0600
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First of all, let me say that I am thrilled to own one of these vehicles, and wouldn't trade it for anything. This is an important part of automotive history and the example of where the US should be right now, instead of starting wars to feed our oil addiction. This vehicle w...
Frank Fenton
Mon, 5 Nov 2007 16:12:00 -0600
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Just finished the box, wiring, etc and temporarily hooked it up. Using Group 27 Interstate AGM SLA batteries. Got some action including Power Steering and AC operating but no propulsion. Getting two lights on dash...Service Now and Batt Life. SOC gauge heads upward when key is...
Gardner L Harris
Sat, 3 Nov 2007 21:16:05 -0700
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Hello Jeff, Pat and Don: I read with great interest the postings on battery life in Digest 51, #1. While I was in New Jersey last week I left the S10 in the "care" of my wife who *always* gets significantly less range than I do no matter which vehicle she uses. In the Prius, I...
Jeff Thomas
Fri, 2 Nov 2007 07:08:26 -0700
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There is a price to be paid by not charging the S-10EV to full, and outweighs the benefit of not charging to full. I'll explain. Each of the 26 NiMH battery modules exhibit a slightly different impedance and parasitic discharge rate. Differing module temperatures occur due to...
Adams, Lynn
Fri, 2 Nov 2007 07:52:57 -0600
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I am thinking about selling my S10E and would like to get the list's input on what price it should sell for. This is a 1997 S10E with the EVBones NiMH upgrade. I got the truck in March 2006 with 12600 miles on the truck with the recently installed NiMH pack. The truck now has...
Stephen Weitz
Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:14:25 -0700
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I don't have the data to back up my opinion, but I think full 100% charging does shorten battery life. On the Toyota Prius, the NMH batteries are cycled between 40% and I think 85% SOC. They could get the most life out of their batteries in this range. This makes sense to me....
Paul Peavyhouse
Thu, 1 Nov 2007 15:46:50 -0700
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Well said about the regen. Regening up to a stop light is *never* more efficient than if you had just been patient and timed your driving right to wait for the light to turn green. The most efficient driving involves never losing your momentum, which results in your right foot...
Paul Peavyhouse
Thu, 1 Nov 2007 15:21:46 -0700
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As far as I know, charging the battery to full does not reduce the service life of the batteries. I don't think that is what Don was talking about. I think Don was referring to the fact that if you charge your pack to full and then let it set for a few hours then it will have...
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Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:02:17 -0400
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Hey Don, FYI, we have not seen the Batt Life light since that one episode, and my goal is to never see it again. We are extremely happy with the S10 -we have put on about 2,000 miles since we got it from you with no problems. We did see the effect the heat pump has on range th...
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Thu, 1 Nov 2007 04:29:02 EDT
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Hello Pat It has been a while since I have posted here due to work. I wish I could spend more time on EV stuff. I want to comment on Jeff's excellent response to your question. A while back I sent an email about this subject to a new EV driver who bought a truck from me. His B...
Paul Peavyhouse
Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:58:08 -0700
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As far as I remember, it has always been recommended to never drive past 50% SOC. If you have the EV1Dash software, you can use your judgement which 50% SOC you care to heed, but they are relatively close enough to each other that you should hopefully be close to a charger whe...
Jeff Thomas
Wed, 31 Oct 2007 06:49:12 -0700
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Batt Life will light for a few different reasons, though the most common is triggered through too aggressive of driving style for the given state of charge. A timer is started within the BPCM on the first low volt event (usually acceleration), and accumulates until the volume...
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Wed, 31 Oct 2007 03:03:23 -0700
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I had the Batt Life light come on this Monday when the SOC was at 12 o'clock. The only other time is has come on I had significantly less charge left. I had been driving 35-40MPH on level ground without a lot of stop and go and had only driven 35 miles, so I was surprised to s...
Tom Dowling
Tue, 30 Oct 2007 12:57:09 -0700
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Interesting. Most RV parks do have separate meters for each space. It's certainly true that some RV parks are not at all EV-friendly, but many RV parks are EV-friendly. Not all RV parks have 240V service. Some of the smaller and older parks have 120V service only. In RV park d...