casey hartman
Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:48:30 -0800
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Having done all three of these myself just a few months ago, I would say that they don't really require much expertise - but you will need a scan tool and a full set of metric tools (including at least one deep socket - I've forgotten the sizes) and some time. If you are reaso...
Gil Dawson
Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:33:39 -0800
2007
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At 9:19 P -0500 12/12/07, Johnny Chattin wrote: >Thank you for your insights on my ev. The Gm effort I believe was >lacking and escape a basic philosophy that is K.I.S.S. Indeed it is not a simple design, but a very interesting one. Your basic S-10E has a bunch af subsystems w...
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Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:58:00 -0800
2007
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I have had #1 and #2 on Jeff's list happen to my S10EV (both this year). And part #3 was preemptively replaced while repairs for #2 were underway. I must start by saying that I, personally, didn't fix either of these, but I am in Oregon, so the guy that helped me is a little t...
Paul Peavyhouse
Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:21:44 -0800
2007
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Rather than try to trick the sensor to [indirectly?] kick in the kerosene heater, would it be possible to directly relay the kerosene heater to run? Surely some IO board somewhere takes the sensor input and determines if it should turn on the fuel-fired heater, and then throws...
Jeff Thomas
Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:19:52 -0700
2007
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Merlin, as a "from the hip" diagnosis; here are the three problems listed by their likelihood: Coolant pump has crapped out. Battery Pack fan isn't spinning. Mass airflow measurement sensor is exhausted. Service soon is a non catastrophic fault. It *will* inhibit charging. The...
Paul Peavyhouse
Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:31:49 -0800
2007
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I'm lovin the form factor of these cells!: http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/11/toshiba-launching-scib-batteries-in-march-5-min-charge-10-year/ Hmmm, kinda reminds me of the NiMH! :) http://www.evbones.com/battery.html The attached photo is a mock of me trying to fit these into...
Ian Ward
Wed, 12 Dec 2007 23:46:08 -0600
2007
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The li-ions from the new Mitsubishi-Yuasa company, Lithium Energy Japan, looks promising, but again, no pricing yet available. http://lithiumenergy.jp/en/products/index.html 108 Wh/kg, 217 Wh/L (LEV50) 60 Wh/kg, 124.6 Wh/L (Cobasys 9500) - ian On Dec 12, 2007 7:32 PM, Paul Pea...
Johnny Chattin
Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:39:19 -0500
2007
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Take a look at this link http://www.greencarcongress.com/2007/11/csiro-invests-i.html#more, it tells about some research about the use of capacitors in combination with batteries. Thank You, Johnny Chattin _______________________________________________________________________...
Ian Ward
Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:01:34 -0600
2007
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Sorry, I meant to reply to the list... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ian Ward <[email removed]> Date: Dec 12, 2007 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [S10-EV] Toshiba SCiB To: Paul Peavyhouse <[email removed]> I was evaluating the same thing. To get the same 29kWh of energy,...
Ian Ward
Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:57:48 -0600
2007
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I think that the comparison isn't necessarily fair because you're comparing the big module with who knows what else included. The Cobasys NiMH batts were bare cells packaged efficiently. If you compare the bare Toshiba cells to the Cobasys cells, the specific energy is not wor...
Paul Peavyhouse
Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:32:39 -0800
2007
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My math was off, but it still seems inferior to the NiMH: - NiMH: (12V * 85AH) / 17.5kg = 60 Wh/kg - SCiB: (24V * 4.2AH) / 2kg = 50.4 Wh/kg My general point was that I like the form factor and it would be nice to have new batteries in the truck (I assume the BCM would need ext...
Paul Peavyhouse
Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:19:55 -0800
2007
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Through some conversations w/ other s10ev readers, I think my math must be off, but this doesn't sound right: - NiMH: 85AH / 17.5kg = 4.86 AH/kg - SCiB: 4.2AH / 2kg = 2.1 AH/kg Do these LI batteries actually have a *worse* Specific Energy than the NiMH? Pv On Dec 12, 2007 1:40...
Paul Peavyhouse
Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:03:24 -0800
2007
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The problem w/ getting an incomplete S10EV is that the S10EV was built w/ a lot of proprietary components (hardware and software) that all depend on each other. If any one component is missing the the whole system gets confused (and thus will probably not work). True, you can...
Paul Peavyhouse
Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:40:18 -0800
2007
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I'm lovin the form factor of these cells!: http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/11/toshiba-launching-scib-batteries-in-march-5-min-charge-10-year/ Hmmm, kinda reminds me of the NiMH! :) http://www.evbones.com/battery.html The below link is a mock of me trying to fit these into the...
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Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:13:09 +0000
2007
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Hi Johnny, Welcome to the S-10 group. Some folks have manuals out there - they are also available for sale (I think) but rather expensive. Hopefully another member will respond with more info on that. Visit www.evbones.com for additional info on these trucks. This is the websi...
Johnny Chattin
Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:05:30 -0500
2007
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?I am new to this, so do I reply to [email removed]. So yes I believe I bought a queen. From what I can tell the components are intact just unplug in the motor bay. The battery box is missing, I see as no big deal as I can fabricate that. The batteries, well I found an article...
Johnny Chattin
Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:42:18 -0500
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I wonder if anyone has a copy of the service manuals for the oem 1997 s10 ev. Also why doesn't anyone post any pics of the oem s10 ev on the net, there are very limited pics. I just purchased an oem s10 ev, yes it was fleet vehicle from an Air Force base. The battery box is go...
Adams, Lynn
Tue, 11 Dec 2007 09:48:21 -0700
2007
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Niel, You can trick the sensor into a more reasonable temperature turn on, but you need to be aware of some of the S10 features. In short you can put a little additional resistance in the thermal sensor line (it is a thermistor that has higher resistance as it gets colder) by...
Ian Ward
Thu, 6 Dec 2007 03:05:45 -0600
2007
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I have already sent a post to the Ranger EV list regarding this news, but it is also relevant to this group. I saw a photo that Peter Gabrielsson posted to his blog about EVS23: http://www.electric-lemon.com/?q=node/280 http://www.flickr.com/photos/56927836 at N00/2088484036/...
Jeff Thomas
Wed, 5 Dec 2007 06:59:46 -0700
2007
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Possibly Don or Pat. Maybe they'll chime in. There's somewhere close to ten S-10EV's in Portland. All thanks to Don's efforts to reintroduce them. Jeff On Dec 4, 2007, at 10:10 PM, tony barker wrote: > > As a former Vacavillian and now a WA resident, I was blown away at > an S...
tony barker
Wed, 5 Dec 2007 05:10:17 +0000
2007
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As a former Vacavillian and now a WA resident, I was blown away at an S10E sighting on I5 last Friday afternoon. NB I5 at the Oregon/WA border. Tony Barker From: [email removed]: S10-EV Digest, Vol 51, Issue 19To: [email removed]: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:02:21 -0500Send S10-EV mai...
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Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:05:35 EST
2007
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Frank Check with Jeff Thomas at [email removed] (mailto:[email removed]) for a charging station I believe your Tech2 is reading the stored DTC you need to clear them. Don Blazer OK, got some time to get back on the S-10... Got the Tech 2 and have found the following: Trouble c...
Frank Fenton
Sat, 24 Nov 2007 17:05:06 -0600
2007
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OK, got some time to get back on the S-10... Got the Tech 2 and have found the following: Trouble codes of Low Battery and Very Low Battery plus Comm Failure Batteries are at 320 to 330 volts, so have plenty of charge and the Tech 2 reads that voltage. When I look at the Batte...
Gil Dawson
Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:08:38 -0800
2007
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Joshua-- It looks reasonable, modulo the safety concerns. However, the EV-1 Dash program replaces the Scan Tool with a Palm Pilot to achieve similar results. Had you heard about this? --Gil At 6:40 P -0500 11/14/07, Joshua Tomel wrote: >Surfing the web I came upon this website...
Joshua Tomel
Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:40:55 -0500
2007
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Surfing the web I came upon this website: http://genki.home.ionet.net/BattMon/BattMonArticle.html This guy put together an individual battery voltage gauge on his dashboard of his Force. If it could be done you would never need a scan tool to know what batteries are needing re...
Frank Fenton
Fri, 9 Nov 2007 22:12:23 -0600
2007
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OK, I got a picture story together for all to see. It is posted at http://www.andersontimer.com/S10%20Battery%20Boxes.htm It is not running yet.. Service Now and Batt Life lights are still coming on. I have a Tech 2 on the way but am in dire need of a battery box wiring diagra...
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Wed, 7 Nov 2007 04:49:22 EST
2007
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Hello Frank Did the vehicle work before you did this conversion? I am not clear how you set up the replacement and added battery box in the rear. It could be the changes you made has the factory system seeing a problem. I was considering adding Lee's battery balancer to the S-...
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Wed, 7 Nov 2007 04:11:34 EST
2007
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Hello Richard Great to hear your doing well with the truck. You noticed in time to be a bit more conservative and increased you range. It's too bad the heat pump uses so much power I usually drive around with it off. Gloves really help when holding on to a freezing steering wh...
Frank Fenton
Tue, 6 Nov 2007 10:01:22 -0600
2007
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Thanks for the inputs so far. To clarify a bit... This is a totally new battery box that is made to use the same mounting method as the original. The rear box uses existing holes in the frame so no new holes were drilled in the frame. All is pristine, including the old battery...
Niel Nielsen
Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:15:21 -0600
2007
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First of all, let me say that I am thrilled to own one of these vehicles, and wouldn't trade it for anything. This is an important part of automotive history and the example of where the US should be right now, instead of starting wars to feed our oil addiction. This vehicle w...